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Allocation of Benefits                 

"This is more than just a question of risk and reward," says the client.  She goes for her right bottom desk drawer, and reaches in. I move back, getting ready for anything. Turning toward me, she whips out a magazine article. "The money isn't getting to my employees. It says here that 70% of state workers in California lose their retirement benefits because they leave their job before qualifying for them."

Quickly, I go to my bag. In a second, my PC is out, fully loaded. "You want numbers?" I said, "let's talk numbers."

"A second key difference between your traditional defined benefit and defined contribution plans is how benefits are allocated. A defined benefit plan allocates more money to your longer service employees. Even though 70% of your employees leave without receiving a retirement benefit, over 90% of your plan assets go to retirement and disability benefits. Remember, these are retirement plans. They are designed to attract and retain good employees by rewarding long careers."

She looked stunned, but I had to keep going. "In a defined contribution plan, the participants still get the money, they just get different amounts. A defined contribution plan gives more money to employees who work only a short time for your agency."

"So," she responds, "more employees will get some of the employer's money from a defined contribution plan."

"No, that's not completely correct." I tried to sound as diplomatic as an actuary can. "In both traditional defined benefit and defined contribution plans, employees receive employer money only after they are vested. In your particular defined benefit plan, it takes 5 years to get vested. If an employee leaves before he's worked for 5 years, he only gets back his own contributions with interest. Almost half of your employees leave before they reach five years of service. Any employee who works for five or more years will be able to get some benefit from employer contributions. A traditional defined contribution plan also has a vesting period for employer contributions."

"So, in a defined contribution plan, an employee will get her money back if she leaves before working for five years." She was starting to understand.  "And she will get some of our money if she stays five years or more. I understand now that the same people get the money. I don't understand how they get different amounts."

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